Geändert von Hydrant (01.03.2014 um 07:24 Uhr) Grund: Ich habe da mal wieder was durcheinandergebr.
Hier könnte auch etwas Sinnvolles stehen, zum Beispiel ein Bier.
Selbstverständlich gebe ich hier nur meine Meinung wi(e)der!
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lügen über den Klimawandel, dass sich die Balken biegen
heute regnet es sogar in Death Valley
Anhänger der anthropogenen Erderwärmungshypothese diffamieren seit Jahren
jeden (obgleich oft sehr gut begründeten) Widerspruch als "Leugnung".
Dr. Roy Spencer setzt sich mit diesem Thema in seinem Blog auseinander.
Er zitiert Ellen Goodman, Boston Globe, February 9, 2007 :
Wenn nun Skeptiker sich nach vielen Jahren der Diffamierung durch Anhänger der AGW-Hypothese“I would like to say we’re at a point where global warming is impossible to deny.
Let’s just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers,
though one denies the past and the other denies the present and future”.
mal gegen den Vorwurf der "Leugnung" mit ähnlicher Wortwahl wehren, dann ruft das die Anti-Defamation League (ADL) auf den Plan.
Warum erfolgte der Widerspruch nicht schon vor Jahren,
als man damit anfing, jeden skeptischen Widerspruch zur AGW-Hypothese als "Leugnung" zu diffamieren, und besonders hierzulande bei ARD/ZDF?
Hier die wirklich gute Entgegnung von Dr. Roy Spencer:February 25, 2014, Atlanta, Georgia …
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today denounced remarks by University of Alabama professor Roy Spencer
who wrote on his blog that those who refer to him as a climate change “denier”
should be called “global warming Nazis”
and that they “are supporting policies that will kill far more people than the Nazis ever did —
all in the name of what they consider to be a righteous cause.”
He also claims those who advocate for policies to slow global warming
are “like the Nazis” in that they are fascist and anti-capitalist.
The post is also accompanied by an image of a swastika.
Shelley Rose, ADL Southeast Interim Regional Director issued the following statement:
University of Alabama Professor Roy Spencer’s analogy of proponents of global warming to Nazis is outrageous and deeply offensive.
This analogy is just the latest example of a troubling epidemic of comparisons to Hitler and the Holocaust.
It has become too common to use comparisons to the Holocaust and Nazi imagery to attack people with opposing views,
whether the issue is global warming, immigration or stem-cell research.
The six million Jewish victims and millions of other victims of Hitler deserve better.
Their deaths should not be used for political points or sloganeering.
This type of comparison diminishes and trivializes the Holocaust.
There is no place for it in civil discussions.
Die fanatisierten Anhänger der anthropogenen Erderwärmungshypothese sollten das mal zur Kenntnis nehmen.Yup, I would sure have appreciated civil discourse from the other side for the last 7+ years, Ms. Rose.
And, your organization might have helped.
Ms. Rose, where was your organization when journalists, politicians, and even some scientists, chose to call us skeptics “deniers”?
We don’t deny either “global warming” or “climate change”.
Yet, we are called “deniers”.
Ms. Rose, do you have any inkling why the term “denier” (which is a lie) might be used against us,
rather than the term “skeptic” (which is accurate)?
I think you know why.
For at least seven years, the Holocaust has been invoked, explicitly or implicitly,
to malign the character of those like me who point out that global warming
(1) might not be all the fault of humans, and
(2) might not be a problem serious enough to warrant killing poor people through much higher energy prices.
Again, we do not deny global warming. We do not deny climate change.
Ms. Rose, I understand your desire to honor the memories of 6 million Jews murdered over several years during the Holocaust.
But every ten years single year, 8 million children die from poverty.
Who will speak out for the much greater numbers who will die from poverty-related causes
as we force expensive energy onto humanity through radical energy policies now being pushed in many countries?
You see, Ms. Rose, the path we are on threatens the lives of many more people than were murdered in the Holocaust.
Therefore, I do not “trivialize the Holocaust”.
In fact, I resent the implication I am trivializing it.
I am instead warning against a new holocaust,
which has already begun as countries suffer the economic consequences of forcing high-priced,
“concierge energy” on the masses.
So, I want to know where the ADL stands (for example) on Ellen Goodman’s “Holocaust denier” statement,
above, as well as the daily barrage of similar “denier” labels we skeptics endure on a daily basis.
We didn’t start the fire, Ms. Rose. And your organization could have helped stop it.
Widerspruch in einer Diskussion hat nix mit "Leugnen" zu tun, sondern ist sogar hilfreich,
die eigene Argumentation (sofern vorhanden....) zu verbessern.
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